• Re: Our President doesn't wan

    From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to jimmylogan on Thursday, November 20, 2025 09:38:28
    jimmylogan wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

    I think it elections that Donald wants to do away with.

    I haven't found proof that he has a plan to eliminate elections
    entirely. What is clear: he has stated he wants major changes
    to how elections are run (for example, new citizenship proof
    requirements, ending mail-in ballots, tighter controls).

    The fact that he didn't respect the 2020 election results and incited
    an insurrection to overturn the election was our first clue.

    Trump telling people before the 2024 election "vote for me and you'll
    never have to vote again" was the second clue.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to JIMMYLOGAN on Thursday, November 20, 2025 13:54:46
    My understanding is that he doesnƒ€™t want to be a literal king - and
    the Constitution wouldn't allow that even if he did. The presidency
    has limits, checks, and a built-in end date no matter who sits
    in the chair.

    True, but if Congress and the courts won't challenge the Constitutionality
    of unconstitutional actions, they can sort of do whatever they want. Now, believing that Trump 2 is the first one who has had things go in his favor
    in this regard is very naive.

    Regarding the 'dictator' comments: he joked early on about making
    big changes "like a dictator" on day one - which is something
    every modern president does with executive orders. That doesn't
    mean he intended to be a dictator, any more than any other
    president using executive authority.

    I think if you look into that, the last 2 or 3 Presidents have been much
    worse -- far beyond the point of abuse -- than most others when it comes to "day one" executive orders.


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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to MRO on Saturday, November 22, 2025 22:03:29
    Re: Re: Our President doesn't wan
    By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Nov 20 2025 08:55 pm

    Re: Re: Our President doesn't wan
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to jimmylogan on Thu Nov 20 2025 09:38 am

    The fact that he didn't respect the 2020 election results

    nobody with a brain could respect those results. elections
    were rampant with fraud.

    Nobody with a brain would ever believe that Biden got 81 million votes...

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Bf2k+ on Sunday, November 23, 2025 00:09:54
    Re: Re: Our President doesn't wan
    By: Bf2k+ to MRO on Sat Nov 22 2025 10:03 pm


    nobody with a brain could respect those results. elections were
    rampant with fraud.

    Nobody with a brain would ever believe that Biden got 81 million
    votes...



    yeah where i was living it was like everyone in the area voted for biden
    and all the election observers were being kicked out of the voting places.

    where i lived people wont even leave the house unless you give them booze or drugs. it was a sham.

    in my old city they had people scamming votes through nursing homes and like
    i said before when i lived there there was someone voting under my name when
    i wasn't voting.

    it was just unorganized fraud.
    i dont think it was organized by one place. i just think it's a thing like
    what george carlin said where they follow the same goals and make the same outcome happen.
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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dr. What on Monday, November 24, 2025 11:57:14
    Re: Our President doesn't wan
    By: Dr. What to Alan Ianson on Tue Nov 18 2025 07:49 am

    When you snuck out of the Politics echo with your tail between your legs, I had hoped that you were seeking help for your TDS.

    But I see that's not the case.

    No one "sneaks" out of that echo. They just get tired of having the same old pedophile-defending talking points shouted at them after every post they make.
    Everyone in that echo just repeats the same things you hear on OAN or from Megyn Kelly, or read on Infowars, The Gateway Pundit, or WND.

    Any evidence or discussion points that don't "mesh" with what your cult leaders have told you, just get ignored, responded to with "NUH-UH!", or responded to with a rambling diatribe about an entirely different topic.

    it's fucking exhausting.

    You're all in a cult.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to DaiTengu on Monday, November 24, 2025 13:54:59
    Re: Our President doesn't wan
    By: DaiTengu to Dr. What on Mon Nov 24 2025 11:57 am

    they make. Everyone in that echo just repeats the same things you hear on OAN or from Megyn Kelly, or read on Infowars, The Gateway Pundit, or WND.

    I find it a little ironic that republicans accuse democrats of repeating whatever they hear on TV (the public media), but I also hear republicans often saying a lot of the same stuff too, like they're repeating what they hear other people say. It's the same behavior; both republicans and democrats are in their own echo chambers.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to DaiTengu on Monday, November 24, 2025 22:43:19
    Re: Our President doesn't wan
    By: DaiTengu to Dr. What on Mon Nov 24 2025 11:57 am

    No one "sneaks" out of that echo. They just get tired of having
    the same old pedophile-defending talking points shouted at them

    they're still talking about joe biden? i thought he wasn't president anymore! ---
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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Nightfox on Tuesday, November 25, 2025 07:55:38
    Re: Our President doesn't wan
    By: Nightfox to DaiTengu on Mon Nov 24 2025 01:54 pm

    they make. Everyone in that echo just repeats the same things you hear on
    OAN or from Megyn Kelly, or read on Infowars, The Gateway Pundit, or WND.

    I find it a little ironic that republicans accuse democrats of repeating whatever they hear on TV (the public media), but I also hear republicans often saying a lot of the same stuff too, like they're repeating what they hear other people say. It's the same behavior; both republicans and democrats are in their own echo chambers.

    you are not wrong. I do tend to notice that a disproportionate number of right-leaning folks project. They accuse LGBTQ+ people of being "sickos" or pedophiles, but it seems like the majority of people who are arrested or charged with such crimes are far-right "religious" types (not all! but a disproportionate majority).

    Also, Trump keeps screaming about "politically motivated" criminal accusations, but is plainly using the DOJ to carry out politically motivated criminal accusations against his political enemies.

    It's like he's made hypocrisy his entire personality.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to MRO on Tuesday, November 25, 2025 08:04:37
    Re: Our President doesn't wan
    By: MRO to DaiTengu on Mon Nov 24 2025 10:43 pm

    No one "sneaks" out of that echo. They just get tired of having the same
    old pedophile-defending talking points shouted at them

    they're still talking about joe biden? i thought he wasn't president anymore! ---

    Yep! And Obama! and Clinton! Anything to try and get the conversation away from the sex pest, convicted felon and adjucated rapist that currently occupies the Oval Office, Donald Trump.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to DaiTengu on Tuesday, November 25, 2025 21:58:15
    Re: Our President doesn't wan
    By: DaiTengu to MRO on Tue Nov 25 2025 08:04 am

    Yep! And Obama! and Clinton! Anything to try and get the
    conversation away from the sex pest, convicted felon and adjucated
    rapist that currently occupies the Oval Office, Donald Trump.

    oh you actually believe that rape thing?
    the ejean carroll screwball? come on man!

    i dont think he raped anybody. women do all kinds of shit for money and presents. when he was talking about grabbing the pussy it was in referance
    to a married reporter who he took out shopping and who knows what else.

    they all want the mushroom head.

    those convictions were bullshit and harmful to the american people. they put
    so much leglistation off just so they could go after trump for years.
    They were literally not doing their jobs all those years.
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  • From jimmylogan@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, November 25, 2025 20:37:23
    Dumas Walker wrote to JIMMYLOGAN <=-

    My understanding is that he doesn‹¨«‹¨«‹¨«t want to be a literal king - and the Constitution wouldn't allow that even if he did. The presidency
    has limits, checks, and a built-in end date no matter who sits
    in the chair.

    True, but if Congress and the courts won't challenge the
    Constitutionality of unconstitutional actions, they can sort of do whatever they want.

    Good point. :-)

    Now, believing that Trump 2 is the first one who
    has had things go in his favor in this regard is very naive.

    Better point! LOL

    Regarding the 'dictator' comments: he joked early on about making
    big changes "like a dictator" on day one - which is something
    every modern president does with executive orders. That doesn't
    mean he intended to be a dictator, any more than any other
    president using executive authority.

    I think if you look into that, the last 2 or 3 Presidents have been
    much worse -- far beyond the point of abuse -- than most others when it comes to "day one" executive orders.

    Executive orders are like a CEO making changes that don't require
    board apporoval - and your'e right, there have been a lot of 'day one'
    things done. And I think it will continue.




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  • From jimmylogan@VERT/DIGDIST to Nightfox on Tuesday, November 25, 2025 20:37:23
    Nightfox wrote to DaiTengu <=-

    Re: Our President doesn't wan
    By: DaiTengu to Dr. What on Mon Nov 24 2025 11:57 am

    they make. Everyone in that echo just repeats the same things you hear on OAN or from Megyn Kelly, or read on Infowars, The Gateway Pundit, or WND.

    I find it a little ironic that republicans accuse democrats of
    repeating whatever they hear on TV (the public media), but I also hear republicans often saying a lot of the same stuff too, like they're repeating what they hear other people say. It's the same behavior;
    both republicans and democrats are in their own echo chambers.

    DING DING!!! We have a winner! :-)


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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to MRO on Wednesday, November 26, 2025 08:10:39
    Re: Our President doesn't wan
    By: MRO to DaiTengu on Tue Nov 25 2025 09:58 pm

    oh you actually believe that rape thing?
    the ejean carroll screwball? come on man!

    Doesn't matter what your opinion is.

    Trump is a convicted felon, and a judgement was rendered against him in a civil trial, where he was found liable for sexual assault.

    Those are the facts. My wording was accurate.

    those convictions were bullshit and harmful to the american people. they put so much leglistation off just so they could go after trump for years. They were literally not doing their jobs all those years.

    Juries and judges all ruled against him. It continues now, where he or his justice department throw out lawsuits willy-nilly (such as the lawsuits against Comey and James) in the hopes that something will stick, but they never get anywhere because they're without merit. Trump loses in court.

    Trump is a loser.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to DaiTengu on Wednesday, November 26, 2025 09:57:10
    Re: Our President doesn't wan
    By: DaiTengu to MRO on Wed Nov 26 2025 08:10 am


    Doesn't matter what your opinion is.

    sure it does!

    Trump is a convicted felon, and a judgement was rendered against
    him in a civil trial, where he was found liable for sexual assault.

    and look how much it mattered. it did nothing. it was a joke on our
    judicial system.

    Juries and judges all ruled against him. It continues now, where
    he or his justice department throw out lawsuits willy-nilly

    a witch hunt is a witch hunt.
    those people are deranged. you can't trust anything anymore.

    Trump is a loser.

    for a loser he's doing quite well.
    he's the leader of one of the largest countries in the world.

    he's our president even though he has all those felonies!
    sounds like a winner to me.

    He's doing better than you and me. so whats that make us?
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to jimmylogan on Wednesday, November 26, 2025 08:57:15
    Re: Our President doesn't wan
    By: jimmylogan to Dumas Walker on Tue Nov 25 2025 20:37:23

    I think if you look into that, the last 2 or 3 Presidents have been much worse -- far beyond the point of abuse -- than most others when it comes to "day one" executive orders.

    Executive orders are like a CEO making changes that don't require
    board apporoval - and your'e right, there have been a lot of 'day one' things done. And I think it will continue.

    Yeah, IMHO, the executive order is not inherently a bad thing if it is used correctly. It should be used as a stop-gap measure, until Congress can pass a law, or in emergencies only. With recent Presidents, it is becoming more a way to create "law" without going through the proper channels, and hoping that Congress and the courts don't question it.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, November 26, 2025 23:20:42
    Re: Our President doesn't wan
    By: Dumas Walker to jimmylogan on Wed Nov 26 2025 08:57 am

    one' things done. And I think it will continue.

    Yeah, IMHO, the executive order is not inherently a bad thing if it
    is used correctly. It should be used as a stop-gap measure,
    until Congress can pass a law, or in emergencies only. With recent Presidents, it is becoming more a way to create "law" without
    going through the proper channels, and hoping that Congress and the
    courts don't question it.


    well if you think about it people want results quick. every president uses executive orders. A president can not create laws, they can only sign bills.
    if you noticed each time trump was president nothing was getting done in regards to the legislative branch. the dems were always after trump.

    infact i was a victim of that because i was waiting for a tax change to be implimented which was all clear and it wasn't was because they were either [1]going after trump [2] going on breaks.

    Executive orders are proper channels. He's using his power correctly.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Thursday, November 27, 2025 10:01:31
    Dumas Walker wrote to jimmylogan <=-

    Yeah, IMHO, the executive order is not inherently a bad thing if it is used correctly. It should be used as a stop-gap measure, until
    Congress can pass a law, or in emergencies only. With recent
    Presidents, it is becoming more a way to create "law" without going through the proper channels, and hoping that Congress and the courts
    don't question it.

    These are strange times. Barack Obama averaged 35 orders per year
    during his terms. Donald Trump 45, 55 per year - mostly overturning
    egislation
    that Obama passed. Biden averaged 41 per year , again, undoing some of
    Trump's attempts to circumvent laws passed under Obama. On Trump's
    second term, Trump has signed 217 orders, with an obedient majority in
    the house and senate.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, November 28, 2025 02:39:24
    Re: Re: Our President doesn't wan
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Thu Nov 27 2025 1

    These are strange times. Barack Obama averaged 35 orders per year

    these arent strange times in regards to executive orders. it's normal for a president to have executive orders. people like you would say he was a liar and doesn't do anything if he just depended on the leg. branch.

    egislation that Obama passed. Biden averaged 41 per year , again,
    undoing some of Trump's attempts to circumvent laws passed under

    biden flat out reversed everything trump did. it wasnt about obama.
    biden didnt even know what he was signing to during that time and most of his presidency. there's proof of that.

    Obama. On Trump's second term, Trump has signed 217 orders, with an
    obedient majority in the house and senate.

    keep counting.

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